Saturday, August 8, 2009

I fucked up

So, the version of V3 that's been online for the past two hours had a page missing and a major spelling error. If you downloaded it, click on the picture bellow for the fixed version, or follow this link: http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2009/08/08/v3f.pdf.

I'm probably going to post up another version online soon, since there's apparently a lot of spelling errors and some of the pictures need to be re-done.

10 comments:

  1. i wish i had a banjo
    tell me that wouldnt be cool
    all banjoing it up and shit

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  2. Banjos are hella sic, I wish we did have one.

    I just put that on there because every anarchist blog in the fucking world just has Blackbird RAUM and other type bands on the link thing and I wanted to promote some hip hop.

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  3. PS - What happened with last night?

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  4. vancity representerAugust 10, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    I second the "fuck banjos" sentiment. Nice to see Nas and Ice Cube added to the list. I can't get into most of the rest, but hey, taste is subjective, ain't it?

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  5. Do you ever write about how just a few years ago you were doing Food Not Bombs and all the activist stuff you hate now? It seems odd and dishonest to construct a politics based largely on attacking who you were just a few years ago.

    The endless prolier than thou language seems forced.

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  6. Also, is the ICC link a joke?

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  7. "Do you ever write about how just a few years ago you were doing Food Not Bombs and all the activist stuff you hate now? It seems odd and dishonest to construct a politics based largely on attacking who you were just a few years ago." -

    Probably the largest piece of writing to that effect appeared in Rolling Thunder a few issues back; the first 'scene report.' I wrote about the various projects that the DAAA Collective group engaged in, which included things like Food Not Bombs, Really Free Markets, and Critical Mass. Part of my point coming out of that group was that I was highly critical of them after being engaged in them for so long. When I speak at events in stuff I generally also talk to this point. So, to answer your question, yes, I've written a lot about it.

    Also, I'm interested in being critical of those projects because I'd like to point towards new forms of organization and resistance, but I'm not interested in constructing a politics based around "attacking them." Such a set of ideas won't get very far or accomplish much; although I do think many of anarchism sacred cows should be sacrificed.

    "The endless prolier than thou language seems forced." -

    As opposed to the non-stop middle class activist dribble that comes out every so fluidly from 90% of the anarchist movement?

    Being a proletarian has nothing to do with the way you talk. If the way I write or speak turns you off - stop listening, it's how I talk.

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  8. Also, is the ICC link a joke? -

    Yeah, I though anarchists would find a group that has regular analysis on global events funny.

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  9. I am very familiar with the ICC. They are Bolsheviks. I am not sure what "regular analysis" means. Certainly they are right about unions and nationalism, but they also often veer off into wild conspiracy theories.

    You haven't always written in this way, but 'the way you write' doesn't bother me; it's what you're saying. Not too long ago you were a proponent of what you call "middle class anarchism", now you mock it. I'm curious where your trajectory will land you... at the moment you're heading towards libcom, the ICC, Class War UK, etc. All that seems like just as much of a dead-end as the activism you left behind.

    (One should also note that the class composition of Class War, the Invisible Committee, Libcom, the ICC, etc is far from proletarian. CW was notorious for having members who went to prestigious schools, Tiqqun was put out by graduates of the most prestigious philosophy school in Europe, the ICC members I met were teachers and professors, and on and on. I would say that all those groups that 'talk the talk' about workingg class issues and working class culture (whatever that even means in 2009) have the same class composition as anarcho-activist circles who do Food Not Bombs and the like.)

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  10. "I am very familiar with the ICC. They are Bolsheviks. I am not sure what "regular analysis" means. Certainly they are right about unions and nationalism, but they also often veer off into wild conspiracy theories." -

    I haven't endorsed anyone group or tendency as a whole. As comrades with A Murder of Crows stated in an interview, "In the shoppinig mall of ideas, we take what we want and burn the rest."

    "More important than these monstrous offspring of Lenin’s theory, however, is the fact that they provided the framework for the practical policies carried out by the Bolsheviks after they had been brought to power in Russia; policies which as we shall see were to actively contribute to the world-wide defeat of the proletariat at that time." - ICC, 'Nation or Class?'

    "You haven't always written in this way, but 'the way you write' doesn't bother me; it's what you're saying." -

    Nice to know I have an anonymous person watching over my shoulder mapping my progress.

    "Not too long ago you were a proponent of what you call "middle class anarchism", now you mock it." -

    Interesting how experience makes you question things. A lot of the work that I participated in during DAAA Collective from 2003 - 2006 I thought was right on and good stuff, and lead to very positive outcomes.

    "I'm curious where your trajectory will land you... at the moment you're heading towards libcom, the ICC, Class War UK, etc. All that seems like just as much of a dead-end as the activism you left behind." -

    I curious as well. Luckily I have people like you along the way who I'm sure will give me their critical voices after I've already articulated something - while also not offering perhaps what should be done instead.

    "(One should also note that the class composition of Class War, the Invisible Committee, Libcom, the ICC, etc is far from proletarian." -

    Have I ever denied that? I even make a joke about the IC in the last issue of Vengeance.

    "the ICC members I met were teachers and professors, and on and on." -

    The person I met from the ICC was a working class student.

    "have the same class composition as anarcho-activist circles who do Food Not Bombs and the like.)" -

    Probably true. My complaints about FNB type projects was more in the ideology which I termed middle class - not in the made up of the members who carry out the projects. I've made that very clear several times.

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